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Special Pleading
Richard Rost 
          
2 months ago
Continuing my series on logical fallacies, Special Pleading is when someone makes a claim, and then when you prove it wrong, they move the goalposts. Instead of admitting the claim might be false, they create a special exception to keep it alive.

You see this in tech consulting when someone insists their custom-built Excel sheet is perfect and doesn't need replacing. You show them it breaks when someone filters a column. They say, yeah, but you're not supposed to filter it. Then you show them the formulas collapse if you sort. Yeah, but you have to know not to sort that column. And when you finally convince them it should be rebuilt in Access, they say, "well, you just don't understand how our process works."

In other words, it only works under ideal conditions with one specific user and the phase of the moon lined up just right... on a Tuesday. Instead of admitting the tool is fragile, they carve out endless exceptions to keep it sacred.

Star Trek gives us a good example with Q. Whenever someone calls him out on something - say, interfering with humanity or abusing his powers - he always has some godlike excuse. Oh, I did that to teach you something. It's part of your trial. You're not evolved enough to understand. He constantly moves the goalposts. You can never win the argument because he won't let the rules stay still long enough to pin him down.

In real life, this fallacy shows up when people refuse to admit they might be wrong - so they make up invisible conditions to keep their belief intact. You proved my psychic powers don't work in a lab? Ah, but that's because the energy in labs interferes with the flow. You didn't believe hard enough. You didn't want it to work.

You see special pleading in politics all the time. A senator will blast government spending when the other party is in power, but when their own party passes a bloated bill, suddenly it's a necessary investment or part of a broader strategy. Same action, different spin. The rules only apply when it's convenient. They're not saying they were wrong before - they're saying this situation is different, without ever explaining why. Instead of holding the same standard across the board, they carve out exceptions to protect their own team.

Special pleading is a defense mechanism. It lets people hold onto weak claims by fencing them off from criticism. But truth doesn't need special rules to survive. If something only works when no one's allowed to test it, it probably doesn't work at all.

LLAP
RR
Richard Rost OP  @Reply  
          
2 months ago

Sam Domino  @Reply  
     
2 months ago
Why does Q look like Rowan Atkinson (aka Mr. Bean)?  LOL!!!

100% agree with your comment on Senators.  But I'll expand it to ALL politicians!  No omnibus bills...we'll just give it a great sounding name and say it has to pass or the country will collapse.  We have to decrease the $37T deficient...we'll spend $20T more over the next few years, but its OK because we have to...  

As the old saying goes...  there is a special place in Hell for lawyers and politicians!!!
Richard Rost OP  @Reply  
          
2 months ago
Oh, I know I asked the AI for a picture of Q doing something crazy like that with the Enterprise crew looking on with incredulity, but the picture was perfect otherwise. I even told the AI, "that does not look like Q, but I'll take it."

Yeah, I just picked senators just out of random. It's any politician, like you said, they're all crooks.

In fact, just this morning, I made a comment on my Facebook page about how the current state of politics reminds me of "The Distinguished Gentleman", a movie by Eddie Murphy back in the 80s, where a con man gets elected to Congress purely out of name recognition with absolutely no qualifications. And then when he gets to Washington, he sees all of the grift and corruption and money being handed back and forth. One of my favorite lines from the movie is: "With all of this money going around, how does anything get done?" And the other guy says: "That's the beauty of the system. It doesn't." Seems like things just keep getting worse and worse.

And no, I'm not picking on any one particular political party. Republicans, Democrats, they all do the same shit, just with different groups of people.
Richard Rost OP  @Reply  
          
2 months ago

Richard Rost OP  @Reply  
          
2 months ago
The difference between the movie and reality is that by the end of the movie, Eddie's character finds his conscience and decides to do the right thing and expose his cohorts. Not holding my breath for that to happen in real life.
Sam Domino  @Reply  
     
2 months ago
Richard If I was "King for a day", I would do away with voting for government positions.  Instead, I would set up a lottery system that randomly picks a citizen to hold that position for 1 term only.  Whether they accepted or declined the position, their name would be removed from the list of eligible candidates for any and all positions.  

I believe it was the ancient Greeks that found out that any person that wanted to be a politician should not be a politician (and should be killed)...  I added that last part!  LOL!!!
Richard Rost OP  @Reply  
          
2 months ago
Not necessarily a bad system, although for the Greeks I believe it only applied to land-owning men. Typical of the time.

I would like to see some kind of basic civics test that has to be passed in order to not only hold public office, but also to vote. I'm sorry but if you don't know how many senators your state has (wink wink) then you shouldn't be deciding who gets to run our government.

And having a Cabinet member who doesn't know what Habeas Corpus is... Yikes.

I firmly believe in meritocracy. People who are WELL QUALIFIED should be the only ones even considered for important jobs.
James Chessher  @Reply  
      
2 months ago
Both Kansas and Florida have 42 Senators each and New York has 65.  
Yes, the (wink wink) refers to Thing 1 and Thing 2 from each State for the US Congress.
The rest of the unhinged lunatics are of course, in each State Senate. I also wish to clarify the term of 'unhinged' as being pejorative and not an official diagnosis.
There would be a benefit to adding psychological testing to the list of qualifications after passing a Civics test. And if a candidate states they "passed a Civic on the way in" and wanted to know if that would count, deserves an immediate disqualification and should be sent back to their old job screwing up orders in a drive thru.
Oh, BTW, I work for a County Election Office testing and certifying voting equipment.
Richard Rost OP  @Reply  
          
2 months ago
Now that you mentioned State Senate, I think a good idea for elected representatives, if you want a career in politics, is that you should have to first hold a position in local government, school board, or whatever. Then those people can move up to County government, and those people can move up to the state government. Finally, people who are in state government are the only ones that can run for federal office. This way, you don't get people in top jobs in the federal government that have no clue what they're doing. At least, that's my opinion.

But I also believe that we should get rid of state and County governments as well. They made sense back in the 1700s when it took a month to go from New York to Georgia, but in this day and age, we really only need local governments to handle things like local police and zoning issues, that kind of thing, and a federal government to handle the big issues and national defense. Everything else is just more politicians sucking on the teats of the people, but again, those are just my opinions.
Michael Olgren  @Reply  
      
2 months ago
The ancient Greeks originated ostracism. Every year all voters would vote to have 1 person removed from society. Not too long ago archeologists found a pile of the rocks with the names scratched in— and determined many of them were scratched in by the same person!
Richard Rost OP  @Reply  
          
2 months ago
Early evidence of voter fraud?

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