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Richard Rost  @Reply  
           
12 months ago

Sami Shamma  @Reply  
             
12 months ago
I have the same guilty pleasure of watching Sovereign Citizen movement videos.
Thomas Gonder  @Reply  
      
12 months ago
I had a neighbor in Colorado, in the 70s, who swore he didn't owe income taxes because of some crackpot constitutional theory.
He went to federal prison on his convictions (both senses).
I am the living man!
Michael Olgren  @Reply  
      
12 months ago
I'm fine with you enjoying this, but it is not for me. It just makes me sad that so many people in this country have lost their grip on reality. And generally, these people cannot be redeemed. They cannot be persuaded by facts, even when hit in the face by reality (arrested, in this case). They are lost.

You can see something similar in the currently popular 1 (progressive) vs 20 (alt-right) video out there. To see a young man gleefully exclaim "I am a fascist!" just makes me sad. I don't feel "better" than him. I bemoan that fact that he has fallen prey to the cult-- brainwashed. His sphere of understanding cannot even be called a reality.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
           
12 months ago
I just like to see justice being served. And when you get people who are ignorant of the law and the officer tries to explain it to them, and they still refuse to comply, then they get justice. And they learn that actions have consequences. These are the kinds of people that in a prehistoric setting would have been weeded out by evolution. If the tribe tells you that creature will kill you, and you're like, "No, I don't believe it." And you keep going and poking that creature with a stick, and it finally kills you? Well, you learned your lesson.
Bill Carver  @Reply  

12 months ago
That means you're ready for On Patrol Live Friday and Saturday nights on Reelz
https://www.reelz.com/show/on-patrol-live/
Thomas Gonder  @Reply  
      
12 months ago
I have had some discussions on the topic, from a social/legal perspective. I'm born into a country, not of my own free will. If I think the laws are wrong or unethical, but I'm powerless to change them, do I have to move somewhere else? Do I have to accept the logic of Socrates? The USA loves to tout "freedom", but am I really free in this situation? Here in Colombia they talk about responsibilities whenever "rights" are discussed (odd that isn't mentioned much in the USA--it's just, "my rights, I have rights!").
Thomas Gonder  @Reply  
      
12 months ago
Richard YouTube is full of videos of police that are more ignorant of the civil rights and constitutional laws than the ordinary citizen. I for one can't wait until their immunity is done away with, and their union/pensions start paying for their ignorance, instead of the taxpayers.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
           
12 months ago
Thomas you are correct in that too many people are quick to shout about their rights without giving a care to their responsibilities - like making sure they renew their driver's license or registration.

Just like with any cross-section of people, you'll have good cops and bad cops. In my experience, most officers I've encountered have been professional and decent people. And the data seems to back that up. Studies show that serious misconduct is concentrated among a small minority of officers, and only a tiny percentage of police-public interactions involve any use of force. Are there bad cops on power trips? Sure. But they're the exception, not the rule. The majority of police officers do their jobs professionally, and it's a small but highly visible minority that causes most of the problems and generates the bad press... and the YouTube videos. You're not going to see someone post a video of the time they got pulled over, were given a ticket, and everything went just fine.
Thomas Gonder  @Reply  
      
12 months ago
Richard My dad was a cop, with an exemplary TO. However, he got stuck with a bad cop, that shot a black perp in the back and planted a gun. The entire department, except his TO, turned on my dad when he refused to sign a false report about the shooting. He got death threats against his family (me and my mom at that time.) He resigned and became a teacher. It was a long time ago, and he, with the help of his old partner who became Sheriff of Santa Barbara, cleaned up a very corrupt department some twenty years later. I doubt he had the misfortune of being involved with the only two bad departments in the USA. As an evidence expert, over the years, he got many supposedly good cops fired for their bad behavior, not only in the SB department.
Thomas Gonder  @Reply  
      
12 months ago
Richard Because the law is one of my "hobbies", I've watched thousands of YouTube videos on various police detainments and arrests. Only twice have I seen a supervisor reverse the decision of an obviously rogue cop that has overstepped his authority. Most support the false recounting of events that the camera clearly refutes. Thank goodness for cell cameras. Now, we just need IA guys that aren't afraid to use those videos against blue and union protected thugs.
Matt Hall  @Reply  
          
12 months ago
In my experience, in Indiana, the State police are the most professional and then the county Sheriffs.  The city police are more hit and miss.

Unfortunately, even if only 1% of police are dirty, that still generates a lot of victims.  As Thomas pointed out, there is a lot of internal pressure to "cover" for them.  If they won't clean their own house, someone else eventually will.
Thomas Gonder  @Reply  
      
12 months ago
Matt The California Highway Patrol (the CA version of a state police) has a supposedly good reputation. However, I caught two officers, on different occasions, in perjury. I reported it to the judge, the station watch commander and the DA. I provided video evidence that clearly showed the perjury. Want to take a guess which, if any pursued the matter? They are all afraid of the CAHP (the union).
Matt Hall  @Reply  
          
12 months ago
The sad part is that all of the honest, public serving officers are having their reputations diminished by the dirty ones.  

Immediately after 911, all first responders were held in similar high regard.   What changed?  I have never heard of a Defund-the-Firefighters movement.  

Defund-the-Police looked to me like a crude attempt for people to clean the police's house.   The First Amendment Audits look like the next attempt to gather evidence and public support toward the same end, reform.

To me, the police are essential in a civilized society but every corrupt act is, itself, a new crime.  Anyhoo, back to access... :)
Richard Rost  @Reply  
           
12 months ago
I'm sure there are more than a few bad apples out there, and I'll admit this isn't something I'm not an expert on. I'm just going by my own anecdotal experience and what I've seen firsthand. I've had some interactions with the police over the years, and by and large, the officers I dealt with were decent people doing their jobs.

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