Computer Learning Zone CLZ Access Excel Word Windows

Whether or not you can never become great at something, you can always become better at it. Don't ever forget that! And don't say "I'll never be good." You can become better! and one day you'll wake up and you'll find out how good you actually became.

-Neil deGrasse Tyson
 
Home   Courses   TechHelp   Forums   Help   Contact   Merch   Join   Order   Logon  
 
Back to Reflection Day    Comments List
Upload Images   @Reply   Bookmark    Link   Email   Next Unseen 
Reflection Day
Richard Melvin 
     
6 months ago
You stated that "The Crusaders spread their faith at the tip of a sword."  I believe that you made an honest mistake. Understandable, with all of the anti-Christian narratives floating freely out there in the medium. Crusaders didn't "spread" their faith by the sword, they defended and took back what was taken from them.  The religion created by Mohamad (a warrior) was and is spread by the sword.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
          
6 months ago
Richard, thanks for sharing your perspective. I completely understand where you're coming from, and I appreciate you taking the time to comment. I want to be clear that this was not meant as an anti-Christian statement at all. The image I used showed Crusaders, but only as an example - not as a criticism of Christianity specifically.

You're right that the Crusades began as a response to earlier Muslim conquests, and that they were often framed as efforts to reclaim territory and defend the faith. But like most large-scale conflicts, they became complicated very quickly. Some campaigns did involve expansion, forced conversion, and political power plays. And that's not unique to Christianity - throughout history, nearly every major religion has, at one point or another, spread or defended itself through violence. The Muslims did. The Jews did. Even pre-Christian and non-Abrahamic faiths have done the same.

And just for clarity - it's not a "mistake" to say that some Crusaders spread their faith by the sword. If you read the actual history, that's exactly what happened in parts of Europe and the Middle East. For example, during the Northern Crusades, Christian armies invaded pagan regions in the Baltic and converted entire populations by force. That was a real campaign, authorized by the Church itself, sanctioned by the Pope.

My point wasn't to single out one group, but to highlight a broader human pattern. Across cultures and eras, we've often justified conquest or violence in the name of belief, nation, or progress. The hopeful side of that story is that we've slowly learned better ways to share ideas - through understanding, science, and dialogue instead of force.

That's the kind of growth I was trying to celebrate in the piece.
Richard Melvin OP  @Reply  
     
6 months ago
No, I never, for one minute (second even) construed that as anti-Christian. I just wanted to point out that it was remiss not to include the major "faith" that relies on conversion by the sword.
Unfortunately, in today's age of media flak, it  is hard for the Truth to get through uninjured.
That is why I love your tutorials/lessons and your ability to cut through the "fog" of illiteracy and come out with clarity, in your area of expertise.
-LLAP

Richard Rost  @Reply  
          
6 months ago
Thanks, Richard I really appreciate that - and thank you for the kind words. You're absolutely right that it's hard for truth to cut through all the noise these days.

And yes, there's no denying that in modern times, many of the most visible acts of violence have come from extremist factions within Islam. One needs only to look at the World Trade Center. That's tragic, and it's fair to acknowledge. But if we take a step back in time - five or six hundred years - the roles were often reversed. There were periods when Christian nations were carrying out conquests and persecutions just as terrible, while parts of the Muslim world were leading the world in science, medicine, mathematics, and philosophy.

My point isn't to condemn or defend any particular faith, but to recognize that almost every civilization has gone through cycles of both brutality and enlightenment. Power, ignorance, and intolerance aren't bound to any one religion - they're part of the human condition. The hopeful side is that we can keep learning and evolving.

That's why I like to talk about "reflection" more than blame. The more we understand where we've all come from, the better chance we have at not repeating the same patterns.

LLAP, and good talk! I love this kind of healthy, mature discussion. It's nice to be able to share our differences of opinion in a thoughtful and respectful way.
Kevin Yip  @Reply  
     
6 months ago
Christianity and Islam are the two religions with the most followers in the world, so it is expected that they should have the most detractors as well.

"Decline of Christianity in the U.S. Has Slowed, May Have Leveled Off," says this article:

     https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/decline-of-christianity-in-the-us-has-slowed-may-have-leveled-off/

But it was still a steep drop from what was once over 90% to today's 63% of Americans who are Christians.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
          
6 months ago
Kevin yeah, I read that Pew study too. The main takeaway seems to be that the decline has slowed more than anything else. Christianity isn't suddenly rebounding - it's just not dropping as fast as before. Pew attributes most of that leveling off to generational replacement - the older, more religious generations are passing away, while younger ones aren't becoming more religious as they age. So overall numbers are stabilizing, not growing. Still, it's an interesting turn. After decades of steady decline, even a pause suggests that American religion might be settling into a new equilibrium - smaller, but maybe more committed among those who stay.

It's interesting how that trend has flipped over time. A few centuries ago, Europe was far more religiously observant than America, with churches and clergy at the center of daily life. But now it's the opposite - most European countries have become largely secular, especially in places like Norway, Sweden, and the Baltic states, where only a small percentage of people regularly practice any religion. Meanwhile, in the U.S., being religious is still pretty mainstream. It's a fascinating reversal when you think about how history cycles like that.
Richard Melvin OP  @Reply  
     
6 months ago
The important thing to draw out of all of this; is that Man hasn't forgotten that he is a created being, and being such he owes his exitance to his Creator.  There is Good and Evil in all of the various religions. Even in those who claim no belief in a Creator. We need to keep pursuing the Good and avoiding the Evil.
Good day, gentlemen.
Kevin Yip  @Reply  
     
6 months ago
For a movie fan like me, the decline of religion has one big drawback: gone are all the big-budget religious epic films that the major studios used to make, like Ten Commandments (1956), Song of Bernadette (1943), Ben-Hur (1959), The Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima (1952), etc.  Those are always a great experience, whether you are a believer or not (and I'm not -- not currently anyway).  Depiction of religious believers is not necessarily an endorsement of such belief, I should say.  And even if it's fiction, a film can still be enjoyed, since we enjoy all kinds of fictional films.  Oh, but a film about pedophilia in the Roman Catholic church?  Hollywood studios would jump on that -- an Oscar-winning film called Spotlight (2015) was made on this very subject.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
          
6 months ago
Richard - I appreciate your comments. I completely understand and respect that viewpoint. For many people, faith provides meaning and comfort, and I have no problem with that at all. Personally, I've always leaned more toward science and evidence-based reasoning. For me, understanding comes from testing ideas, looking at data, and following where the evidence leads.

I realize that faith and science approach truth from very different directions. One starts with belief and seeks reassurance - the other starts with doubt and seeks proof. They often reach different conclusions, but I can still appreciate how faith gives people hope and a moral compass. We may take different paths, but many of us are still trying to reach the same place - understanding, compassion, and progress.

At the end of the day, I think we'd agree that whether one's guide is faith or reason, what really matters is choosing the "good" and avoiding the "evil," as you said - and that's something all of humanity can unite around.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
          
6 months ago
Kevin - I agree completely. I loved those classic religious epics too - The Ten Commandments, Ben-Hur, The Robe - all beautifully made. Charlton Heston could make reading the phone book sound dramatic. I've loved his acting ever since I saw Planet of the Apes.

One thing that always struck me, though, was how graphic some of the crucifixion scenes were. The TV stations would play them every year around Easter, and my grandma would make me watch them. She thought it was a wonderful thing - "The Life of Jesus," all that good stuff. But to me as a kid, it was traumatizing. Watching the nails being driven into his hands and feet, the blood, the agony - I remember sitting there terrified. I know a lot of people find those scenes beautiful and moving, but for a six-year-old, that was nightmare fuel. I had bad dreams for weeks. Children can't truly process the meaning behind it or even understand the story that's being told. So when my kids were little, I skipped those movies until they were old enough to really understand what they were seeing.

That said, I've always enjoyed religious art, architecture, and history. You don't have to share the belief to appreciate the beauty or cultural significance. I loved seeing the inside of Westminster Abbey when I visited the UK recently. Standing there, you can feel the centuries of craftsmanship and devotion that went into every stone. So yes - you can absolutely admire those things without endorsing the doctrine behind them.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
          
6 months ago
And remember... Soylent Green is people!!!

This thread is now CLOSED. If you wish to comment, start a NEW discussion in Reflection Day.
 

Next Unseen

 
New Feature: Comment Live View
 
 

The following is a paid advertisement
Computer Learning Zone is not responsible for any content shown or offers made by these ads.
 

Learn
 
Access - index
Excel - index
Word - index
Windows - index
PowerPoint - index
Photoshop - index
Visual Basic - index
ASP - index
Seminars
More...
Customers
 
Login
My Account
My Courses
Lost Password
Memberships
Student Databases
Change Email
Info
 
Latest News
New Releases
User Forums
Topic Glossary
Tips & Tricks
Search The Site
Code Vault
Collapse Menus
Help
 
Customer Support
Web Site Tour
FAQs
TechHelp
Consulting Services
About
 
Background
Testimonials
Jobs
Affiliate Program
Richard Rost
Free Lessons
Mailing List
PCResale.NET
Order
 
Video Tutorials
Handbooks
Memberships
Learning Connection
Idiot's Guide to Excel
Volume Discounts
Payment Info
Shipping
Terms of Sale
Contact
 
Contact Info
Support Policy
Mailing Address
Phone Number
Fax Number
Course Survey
Email Richard
[email protected]
Blog RSS Feed    YouTube Channel

LinkedIn
Copyright 2026 by Computer Learning Zone, Amicron, and Richard Rost. All Rights Reserved. Current Time: 4/30/2026 5:18:01 AM. PLT: 1s