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Modern Authentication is a Mess
Richard Rost 
          
18 months ago
During the day that my phone was broken, I realized just how much modern security systems rely on a single device. I could not log on to American Express, Fidelity, Microsoft, or even my bank because every single one of them required a passkey or a text message for verification. Since my phone was dead, I had no way to receive those messages. There was no option to send a recovery link to my email, no backup method, just a dead end unless I wanted to sit on hold for an hour. I have since replaced my phone, which was another nightmare in itself (story coming), but until I regained access to my number, I was completely locked out of almost everything.

Passkeys, two factor authentication, and security measures that are supposed to help are just making everything more frustrating. I know they are important. I know they add an extra layer of security. But the whole system is broken.

Take American Express, for example. To verify my identity, I could either use the passkey on my phone, which was broken, or get a one time password sent by text, which I also could not receive because my phone was broken. There was no option to send me a recovery link by email. My only choice was to call in and sit on hold. Fidelity was just as bad. No text option, no email option, just a phone call where they would ask me for the same information I could have easily entered into a web browser. Is recording my voice really that important? What information could they possibly get from me over the phone that they could not get from me online? My Social Security number? My driver's license number? Any of those things could just as easily be entered into a secure form, but no, instead, I am stuck waiting for an agent just to tell them information I already have.

Even Microsoft refused to let me into my account without the authenticator app on my dead phone. I could not install the app on my backup phone because I could not authenticate. There was no fallback option, just a big locked door.

Then there is Open Bank, which will not let me log in at all without my trusted mobile device. No backup codes, no alternative methods, just sorry, you are locked out. I thought I would be smart and switch everything over to my Google Voice number so I could access my messages from any device, but no, most places refuse to accept VOIP numbers.

It is ridiculous. Security is important, but it should not be this broken. If people just used strong, unique passwords, none of this would be necessary. It is not like I have millions of dollars sitting in my bank account to protect. I just want to check my email, access my accounts, and move on with my life.

What about you? Are you as frustrated with modern security as I am, or do you think all these extra steps are worth it?
Richard Rost OP  @Reply  
          
18 months ago

Thomas Gonder  @Reply  
      
18 months ago
Now you know why I freaked when my phone went missing, with my wallet. (Waist pack fell off me when riding motorcycle).
I couldn't even login to banks with the PC to cancel the credit cards.
Yet earlier, some fraudster was able to suck hundreds out of my bank account with multiple fraudulent debit card charges, with ten transactions occurring within seconds, and the bank had no clue it was fraudulent?
With my brokerage account, every time I login, they want 2-step-autentication (despite selecting "trust this device").
I still can't figure out the new Microsoft passcode mess.
Ignoring the variety of authentication methods, yes, it's gotten nuts.
Sami Shamma  @Reply  
             
18 months ago
Richard, 2 stories in less than 24 hours, and what is the answer? The apple/ sorry the elephant in the room is starting at you.

lol
Richard Rost OP  @Reply  
          
18 months ago
Yeah, because Apple devices NEVER have any problems. LOL.



1. iPhone Alarm Clock Bugs (2010-2011): In 2010, users experienced issues with the iPhone's alarm clock due to daylight saving time changes, causing alarms to go off at incorrect times. A similar bug occurred on New Year's Day in 2011, where non-recurring alarms failed to activate.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issues_relating_to_iOS  

2. Antitrust and Anti-Competitive Practices: Apple has faced criticism and legal challenges over alleged anti-competitive behaviors, including issues related to its App Store policies and vendor lock-in practices.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Apple_Inc.  

3. Planned Obsolescence Allegations: The company has been accused of deliberately designing products with limited lifespans to encourage consumers to purchase newer models, leading to legal actions and public outcry.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_Apple_Inc.  

4. iOS 12 Group FaceTime Bug (2019): A significant privacy flaw in iOS 12 allowed users to eavesdrop on others via FaceTime, even if the recipient did not answer the call. This issue prompted Apple to disable Group FaceTime temporarily and release a software update to address the problem.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issues_relating_to_iOS  

5. Battery Performance and Throttling Controversy (2017): Apple admitted to slowing down older iPhone models to prevent unexpected shutdowns due to aging batteries. This revelation led to lawsuits and a battery replacement program to appease affected customers.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_Apple_Inc.  

6. Siri Privacy Concerns (2019): Reports emerged that Apple's voice assistant, Siri, was inadvertently recording private conversations, raising concerns over user privacy and data handling practices.  
https://www.vox.com/culture/393839/apple-siri-lawsuit-settlement-is-my-phone-spying-on-me  

7. iOS 14 Default App Settings Reset (2020): Users discovered that after setting third-party apps as defaults for web browsing or email, these settings would revert to Apple's native apps after a device reboot, causing frustration among users.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issues_relating_to_iOS  

8. iPhone 12 Repairability Issues (2020): The iPhone 12 series was found to have components that malfunctioned or displayed warnings if replaced, complicating repairs and raising concerns about the right to repair.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_Apple_Inc.  

9. Apple Maps Launch Debacle (2012): Upon its release, Apple Maps was criticized for inaccuracies, lack of features, and poor navigation, leading CEO Tim Cook to issue a public apology and recommend alternative mapping services.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Maps  

10. MacBook Butterfly Keyboard Failures (2015-2019): The butterfly keyboard mechanism used in MacBooks was prone to failure due to dust and debris, resulting in widespread user complaints and a repair program initiated by Apple.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_keyboard  
Sami Shamma  @Reply  
             
18 months ago
On a serious note
My youngest son is a so called an Apple genius.
After 18.1 update, my phone kept on losing some of my emails.

It took him and four other apple geniuses seven hours to find out that it was a new silly feature that they added that categorized emails and what didn't fit they did not show.

One of the five was the top genius on the East Coast
Thomas Gonder  @Reply  
      
18 months ago
Apple was a client of mine in the 80s. They were a total pain, demanding that we provide documents in all the different versions of their software, because they were all incompatible with each other. Not forgetting the child and slave labor in the China factories. Such an ethical company.

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