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Julie Bennett 
     
15 months ago
I enjoy your structured Access classes.  You are easy to understand and it is good to see your errors included in video's.  OK, all the formatting gets boring after a while, but I can fast forward through those bits.  You are honest and straight forward , unlike a LOT of the junk on the internet.  This is the second time I have used you courses to re-learn Access, and I recommend them to anyone who wants good, thorough, useful training.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
           
15 months ago
Thanks, Julie. I appreciate it. I try to keep everyone as happy as I can by finding a balance between certain things like doing too much formatting or not doing enough. Some people complain that I waste too much time on formatting or form design, but then if I just do it off camera and come back, people complain that they want to see what I was doing. So I try to find a comfortable mix.

I think what I might start doing in future videos is saying, "Okay, I'm going to format this form now and record this as addendum A. If you want to watch every little thing that I'm doing, go watch that video. For the rest of you who don't care, bam, here's the updated form, lol."
Matt Hall  @Reply  
          
15 months ago
I was just wondering, would it be any less work to just have a long and short version videos?  The long version would be the complete video and the short version would be the same video, but with all of the formatting time stripped out.  Setting up addendum videos seems like it might be more work for you and less fluid for those of us that would want to see everything.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
           
15 months ago
Well, I can do addendum videos while I'm recording the original video. I wouldn't have to go back and make a condensed version because I could just stop the recording, turn the recording back on, record all the fluff stuff, the formatting, the moving stuff around, not edit it at all, and then just save that as the addendum video. Put that to the side and then go back to recording the original video. I can do all that in stride. Making a shortened video, removing all the fluff, would either involve more editing or recording a whole new video that's just faster and quicker.

It's kind of like the Access beginner one course; it's 4 hours long, but then I made the Learn Access in 30 Minutes video, which is basically the same stuff, just shortened. That took a lot of extra work. I've been wanting to do something similar for the entire beginner series, all nine lessons, and just condense those into an hour, which I probably could do for people who come to me and say, well, I already know Access, but I don't think I need all the beginner lessons because I already kind of know all this stuff. But they miss fundamentals, so I wanted to do a beginner fast course, but again, that's a lot of work, so I don't know. I'll have to try and see.
Julie Bennett OP  @Reply  
     
15 months ago
I don't want to put you off...  but I think all the formatting and "fluff" is essential in the Beginner course as Beginner's are often focused on making access work for them and forget about formatting.  Whereas, constantly repeating formatting encourages beginners to develop their tables, forms, queries and reports properly.  They don't learn bad habits like not renaming controls properly and also make use of database design ideas (like using Excel to map out what is needed before they start building Tables incorrectly or designing forms that need a million queries to run because they don't understand relationships, etc).  So, instead of condensing a long video, maybe find a way to break it into smaller parts?  Just a suggestion as I know I learned a lot of good stuff from your Beginner video's both in the past and as refreshers when I needed them.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
           
15 months ago
Good points. In an ideal perfect world, I could have a fast track and a slow track, where the latter would be for people who want to take their time and learn all the nuances and not miss anything. The former would be for people who don't have time for that and want to just get the cliff notes. But I don't have time to develop all of that. I'm busy enough just doing what I'm doing, but in a perfect world, that's how I would do it.
Julie Bennett OP  @Reply  
     
15 months ago
My apologies, Richard.  I fully understand how much time pressure you are under.  Please ignore my ramblings.
Richard Rost  @Reply  
           
15 months ago
No worries at all. I love the feedback.

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