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What is your reason for wanting to use FrontPage?

I am taking the course frontpage for webpage development but dont see this feature on my computer. I do have features microsoft edge and 365 but not frontpage. Do I go to a certain web site to download it or access other similar program features within my computer ?? (I understand it is an outdated computer feature replaced by several other programs.etc) I dont think I can continue sucessfuly if I am unable to access this program/feature as instructed in lesson 3. what is your suggestion ?

why would you be instructing  students within the lesson to access this feature;frontpage on their computer in order to continue w the lesson if the feature is no longer available in most computers ? shouldnt they also be shown where else to access this feature/similar program if not available ??

Marian, FrontPage was discontinued back in 2006. The only reason I keep the lessons on the website are because some people still use it. If you don't have it already, there's no way that I know of to get it. Sorry.

I still have Windows XP, Photoshop 6, and VB 6.0 lessons on my website too even though those programs were discontinued a LONG time ago, but some people still have them. I don't know what software YOU have on your computer. That's your responsibility to know. I wouldn't buy a copy of Lord of the Rings in Spanish because I don't speak Spanish. Likewise, you shouldn't buy a tutorial for a piece of software you don't have.

If you want to learn how to build websites, unfortunately right now I have nothing CURRENT to help you with. I'm happy to credit your account for the money you spent on FrontPage lessons, however. I'm not in the office right now though, so contact me via the customer service form and I'll take care of it on Monday for you.

Microsoft FrontPage was replaced by Microsoft Expression Web and eventually Microsoft SharePoint Designer for web design and development. I believe the latter is free, but I don't have any lessons on it.

Both Microsoft Expression Web and SharePoint Designer have also been discontinued.  Visual Studio is the current Microsoft tool for web & app development.

There are also many web-building online services nowadays, like Squarespace, Shopify, Wordpress, etc.  They are one reason why a tool like Frontpage became obsolete.

Personally I still use a text editor for my web design, but I'm old school. 😁

I'm not that comp savy esp when it pertains to web pg. development .The point in taking the class is to learn how to .... if a feature necessary in learning this topic is no longer available and not accessible easily for the novice student I dont see the point...  I noticed you offer a lot of free classes which would you then suggest as a comprable replacement so you need not to refund and I dont leave disappointed?

ASP or the old HTML could be alternatives.

What is it you are wanting to learn exactly? Just basic HTML/CSS/JS?

What's your end goal?

The ASP lessons that Alex mentioned were done long ago and also made use of FrontPage and other outdated tools.  Hi Marian, if you need "walkthroughs" of the tools involved, then these lessons are not for you.  These lessons are about the core subject matters and they don't walk you through the tools themselves.  Students who use these lessons are expected to be able to adapt their knowledge to other tools, such as the more up-to-date tools of today like Visual Studio.  But as Richard said, this site doesn't have lessons on the most updated web tools.  He did a poll last year and a majority of his students wanted Access lessons.  If you need lessons on how to operate tools other than Access (installation, configurations, what to click, what to open, etc.), you need to find them elsewhere.  Currently, "Visual Studio" and its text-only counterpart "Visual Studio Code" are the most up-to-date Microsoft web tools.  They are widely used, so you should have no trouble finding YouTube tutorials for those.

Web development comprises of a myriad of necessary knowledge.  If you are a true beginner, expect a lot of learning, sometimes beyond just learning the tools and coding languages.  If you can't wait and have a job to do, then consider one of those web-design-made-easy services like SquareSpace and Shopify.  They are also not without considerable learning curve.

You mentioned you aren't "computer-savvy" enough, but what is your exact level of knowledge?  There is a "hidden prerequisite" to learning this kind of stuff, which I estimate to be college sophomore with tech background -- but it's just an estimate.  That means if you had 12 years of primary and secondary schooling with sufficient foundation on science, tech, and math, plus a freshman year of a tech major, then you are in a much better position to learn database, web development, coding, etc., than otherwise.  Of course, lots of people can learn this with less foundation.  And many people can attain such foundation without going to college, but not without hard work, of course.  But obviously, the greater your foundation, the easier it will be for you.  In other words, this stuff is not what any lay person can learn.  There is a "hidden prerequisite" to it.

Thank you all for your feedback. I hope I am not jumping the gun by calling it quits this early in the class but I am use to having all portals that need to be accessed to be available within the class so there are no stops. This has nothing to do w ones level of education to complete the class. I think my best bet is to go back and see if the requested features that are not available to everyone  can be replaced w other accessible computer features;doubtful . If this is not possible I will just put my time and effort in one of your other free classes. Again even here my goal is to take a class w no glitches and all features that need to be accessed to be  available equally to all students within the class ???

If you're looking to learn web design from scratch, you can watch my HTML lessons, and that'll give you the basics of how HTML works. But that's just the absolute basics of how to set up a web page. It doesn't cover setting up an entire site. That's what I used to teach FrontPage for. However, in the 20 or so years since I made my FrontPage class, things have changed a lot in the arena of web development. I don't see myself updating that course anytime soon with the latest technology because I'm just so busy covering Access and other Microsoft Office topics. Maybe in the future, I might do a new web development beginner course, but it's not going to be anytime soon. Sorry. Like Kevin mentioned though, there are a ton of other tutorials on YouTube that you can find to learn web design. My HTML Basics course, the free one, is good if you just want to learn how HTML works, and I've got an ASP course that covers that. That's still relevant technology. I still use ASP in my website right now. But again, if you're a beginner, it's probably not the right course for you.

Hi Marian, your overall level of education does matter in learning these things.  You need at least high-school level math to know what "functions" are.  You need algebra to understand what "variables" are.  Other things like data types, objects, database design, etc. and other increasingly abstract topics all require the necessary background.  In tech fields as well as in life, a lot of skills require "cross-disciplinary" training, meaning that to learn one field, you need knowledge from (several) other fields.  You can't build web apps without a good knowledge of math concepts, how the Internet and networking work, what a "server" is, what a "client" is, etc.  Certain things also can't be taught, such as how to design an "aesthetically pleasing" web site, in which case you only have your own foundation of knowledge, life experience, good taste, etc. etc., to draw from.  There is no school to teach you how to avoid designing ugly websites such as this:   http://act.mit.edu/cavs/   instead of a beautiful one like this one:   https://www.impossible-bureau.com/

Each computer is different . Computer features that need to be accessed to progress with a lesson if not present in ones computer stall  learning. Example; you cant instruct a student on how to write an essay and then ask the student to write an essay if you dont provide access to the tools necessary to practice to write the essay; pen, pencil,  paper etc. My computer is lacking the essentail tools to access the features requested to apply knowledge taught to continue w the class beyond just listening to a lengthy, multi- step; complicated lesson. I think it best to provide links to download features that need to be accessed otherwise students will just tune out, and drop out. Its become unbearably difficult and boooooooring for me not just to listen but to follow the numerous steps required to learn something in this class; its too complicated especially without frontpage on my computer.  This has again nothing to do w lack of skills or willingness to learn. More like poor class layout. True but difficult to accept. Thanks for your efforts and feedback. Better luck maybe with another class. Take care !

Marian,

There are plenty of sellers on eBay selling FrontPage if you need it to follow along with the classes.
Since FrontPage is old software you will need to make sure it is compatible with your current Operating System before purchasing.

Hi Marian, I suggest you forget FrontPage, and learn updated tools from somewhere else instead.  Even if you had FrontPage, it probably wouldn't do you much good because it's decades-old and obsolete.  All those requests you made in your last post are pretty unreasonable and bordering nonsensical.  You can't expect that much to be done for you because FrontPage is long gone and you are lucky to find info here.

I have to agree with Kevin Yip here... If you're just learning how to build web pages now, then I would suggest trying to find a good web design course online. I don't even know any right now because I learned old school when the web first came out, and so I used a text editor and then FrontPage. I still, to this day, just use a plain text editor to update my website because I learned how to build that way, and so that's what I'm good at. But there are so many new graphical tools out there for building websites. The only reason I keep my FrontPage course online is because there are still people out there using it, believe it or not. But if you don't already have it and you're not using it, then I wouldn't start learning now to build with FrontPage. Maybe one of these days when I'm all caught up on the other projects that I'm working on, I might consider putting together a new web design course. But I don't see it happening in the near future because I'm just busy as it is with Access, and I still have other Microsoft Office courses I want to update too. So, I don't see it happening anytime soon. But definitely keep in touch and let us know what you come up with, and good luck with your project.