Yes, I know about making a form, and everyone always says that (the other programmers at work). I have btw done that, but dont want to have it. And  it's a code that works in 2000 or 2002 access, then there must be a way to get it to work here in the 2013. I am a fan of more code than forms and qry's. I like to have 1 form with much code, rather tan 10 forms with no code. But I can understand that others like the quick way.